32.Breakfast Moderated discussion and help for Food Combining and the Hay diet, Cookery and recipes, Starch or Protein

Breakfast: from on 2003-11-19

Hi there!

I'm just starting out on the Hay Diet again. I went on it at the beginning of the year and it worked wonders for me. Sadly, I have slipped into old habits and have put the beef on. Part of the Hay diet that was the most difficult was breakfasts. I've read that fruits should be eaten on their own so breakfast would be a good time to eat them but then I wonder if this would provide enough energy until lunch time. I've also read that you shouldn't drink milk with other foods - so cereals are out.

Could someone please give me some tips on what would make tasty breakfasts - then I might be able to stick to it!!



Re: Breakfast: from Peter on 2003-12-02

I eat a lot of different breakfasts on different days.

Cornflakes and fruit juice

rice and dried fruit cooked together

fresh fruit

or if I'm doing a lot of physical hard work, bacon and egg


neutral breakfast: from on 2003-12-31

I have been reading thru my food combinin bk 4 Veggies, so im havin a few probs! It states u should have =
protein meal,
starch meal
Neutral Meal

.... in 1 day. Bit stuck we neutral, and what 2 have for breakfast. As its easier then 2 have a protein/starch lunch and dinner.
What could I have being vegetarian for a neutral breakfast??? (other than raisins

Re: neutral breakfast: from Peter on 2004-01-02

How is the book defining a neutral meal?

Two starch meals + one protein meal per day is a good guide.


Re: neutral breakfast: from on 2004-01-03

In my Veggie combining book, it states u should have a neutral meal. foods that r neutral: cream, butter, salad, veg mainly.
Thing is id rather have protein and startch 4 lunch and dinner. But if u say its ok 2 have 2x startch 1x protein ill try that! Is it wrong 2 mix up and have 2 protein and 1 starch?? As again in this bk it says protein is a key factor/importance. maybe cos im veggie

Re: neutral breakfast: from Peter on 2004-01-05

If you need to steadily lose weight, then one meal of just veg or fruit each day would be a good idea.

two protein meals and one starch meal put slightly more strain on the liver and kidneys which have to break down and excrete excess protein - it cannot be stored by your body. Fine occasionaly, not so good every day.

I would judge this over the long term, assess your weight and health, and adjust your diet accordingly.


Re: neutral breakfast: from on 2004-01-05

Thanks Peter.Diet seems to be going well after my first week. Its strange how after a while you dont miss potato with protein, cheese with bread etc. luckily i have been cooking up lots of recipes like the wholemeal pizza, potato scones and quiche recipes to add some life to my meals.
PS Diet Coke is allowed isnt it? as contains no protein, carb or fat?? As 1 website said not to drink it as contains asphermane (cant spell it

Re: neutral breakfast: from Peter on 2004-01-08

Water is much more healthy than diet coke at any time.


Re: neutral breakfast: from on 2004-01-19

Hi Peter and Katy,

Peter, the "neutral meal" Katy is referring to is what is advocated by writers like Doris Grant as being neither a starch nor protein food. It is what you have kindly explained several times to people about there having been a misunderstanding of Dr Hay's teaching about alkaline salts. Other books state that the neutral foods do not cause an acid nor an alkaline environment. It is very confusing to people

Re: Breakfast: from emma on 2008-03-17

I'm just starting with the hay way agin, and have similair probs re-breakfast. One favorite is,

scrambled eggs, tsp tahini, half tsp english mustard mixed and cooked in the frying pan. Yum protein breakfast.

neutral...fruit i guess

starch porridge is always a good one for high energy.